Video Time today is going to be a short one. I'm just going to show you a test of what I'm doing here. As you know, there are many 18 650s floating around right now. So I thought why don't I make uh a project to make to help people make those batteries or cells into batteries, right? battery packs and so this is what came out.

There's a lot of iterations, but this is the latest one and uh, it's symmetrical and uh, this one's bad because we didn't do it right until so this didn't pass the test. but it's great to show you what's happening here. So in the search for making things simpler and easier to build, what I've decided to do is try this thing where I'm gonna have to compress them. These are gonna lay out like this next to each other, right? and so I thought, well okay, we just put screws in here and that's how the current goes from one module to the next one.

but because we're compressing them with these, uh, you know all threads, uh, big long screws or bolts and stuff. Uh, why don't I try and see if I can simply use the compression to be able to transmit the power from one module to the next and I thought is that possible I don't know if I want to try that. Obviously there's uh, some down to that right that if you don't you might not be able to catch it if there's not enough pressure. Uh, if it's not evenly applied, There's like all kinds of things that could happen.

but I want to give it a try at the very least, Right before saying that it's not going to work because it might just actually work quite well. And so that's what these modules are. They have this exposed piece right here and then I have gone and put a one little strip of nickel in here. So that means that this portion and this portion right here.

the stuff that actually I want to transmit is the part of this flat plane right here that is sticking out. you know, further out right. And so that means that it's going to make sure that that is the part that is touching and is going to have some pressure now. I don't know it's going to be enough pressure I Don't know.

we're going to do a test. So here what you see here is seven modules this way and then seven modules this way. This is a 14s module now and this is uh, how. uh, I'm envisioning this battle records.

That's what we. That's what everybody needs. Everybody needs a 48 volt. That's what is popular and it works with all the inverters and stuff like that, right? So that's what we're doing here.

Uh, now these are compressed already I have torqued these. There's nothing connecting the one module to the next other than just these, uh, exposed little pieces of nickel in between each one of these modules. So uh, what I'm going to do is I'm going to load it up today. And the target for this battery is 100 amps I Want them to be able to do 100 amps? Uh.

Also, there's a bunch of other stuff they're doing. We're like using a PCB over here to transfer from this side to that side. the same thing, it's just with compression. uh and these uh, pieces that are supposed to uh, conduct the the power uh are in between this two bolts right here.
which is probably where most of the torque is gonna be seen right? Um, now these are exposed too so they are touching, but there's no pressure in there right? I mean in the future if this works really well, we could even take these off. but I think just in the Uh I think it would be a good idea to leave them there. They don't hurt. and so in case that one of these batteries is not, even though you torque it, it's not conducting power from one module to the next, then you simply could throw a bolt in here and then uh, then that would help it right? So of course these I'm trying to make this super simple so you don't use a bunch of wires and all this other stuff including when you put the BMS in here and so this is part of that.

this is this connects. There's wires in here, but this is not the way I want to do it. this is just because I haven't nailed the design now, but it or eventually we're just gonna lay that board in there and then just put a couple solder points in there for each module and then we're going to be on. You know, we're going to be on online connecting these and then I'm going to put connectors in here to be able to put the BMS and then they're all labeled.

stuff, you know? So all good, good stuff. This board in the front too is going to be the same thing. is going to be two layers in the top. Whatever is gonna.

we're gonna put a BMS through here through one side and then a uh circuit breaker on the other and that's what this hole is here for. But I this design is kind of early. I have another one that is working. So today we're just going to be testing the conductivity right.

Will it? Do some amps? and I've done some preliminary tests and it's looking good. That's why. uh, at this point I'm like, well, the only thing left is to try the full battery and then, uh, see if we can do full power. So I don't know if we're gonna be able to do full power today.

I think these ones do 30 amps each so we could be uh close, very very close. Uh I Actually though, at this voltage it might be 20. so two four six so we might be around 60 amps. Let's run this test.

see what it does? We have the clamp in there. Also another thing that I want to test to see if uh, these two wires which are 10 gauge are going to be sufficient enough to do very short uh runs within the battery to trans to conduct uh 100 amps. So we're gonna be looking. We're gonna be looking at those two.

Okay, starting the test all right. We have connected the other two so if it's 900 at that, so 3 000 Watts, we'll see what 3 000 Watts looks like the battery is not fully charged. it's still at 3.5 volts 700. this one's at zero.

Why is this one at zero? All right. 67 amps, 89 amps, 86 Voltage is still pretty good on the cells and we're looking at Oh 111 right there at the exit point. right here at the exit point. Right here.
111 amps degrees Fahrenheit is not very high. Okay, so we see heat here at the exit point and then we see heat back here where it's just a PCB board that's going across there. but the cells. So I mean they're 90.

not even that bad. They're slightly warm to touch. Uh, and we don't see no hot spots here. You would see two hot spots there, one there and one in here, but we don't see that on the other side also.

no we see the hot spots over here, but we don't see them there and here. Which means that, Uh yeah, this compression thing really works. It works really well. You gotta try the full on test but I gotta charge this battery and then, um, try it again.

So there you go. This looks very, very promising. We, uh, virtually didn't see any heat from here from in between the things. Uh, and we would have seen some on the edges here if that was the thing.

but uh, the only heat we saw was from here and there. This battery module. this battery pack is going to be 48 volts. uh, 100 amp hours right? So pretty much almost the same as all the other ones that are on the market that are 48 rack mountable.

It's gonna have pass-through terminals, is going to have circuit breaker is gonna have a screen an LCD screen. It's gonna have communication to talk to the inverters. It's going to have a nice steel box. This is going to be a legit rack mount, five kilowatt hour battery and it's gonna have a legit BMS Just like all the other ones like the Eg4s and all the other brands that are out there and stuff and it's going to be so easy to build is going to be really easy.

Uh to get these modules and put them together and put them in the box and stuff right? I Can't wait to finish this! This is just a simple test that I've been doing and I just wanted to share with you guys. Stay tuned for this project. This is coming up pretty soon. All right.

thank you for watching these videos. We'll see you guys on the next one. Bye Oh foreign, foreign. Oh by the way, if you have HBO Max make sure you watch Driver Downey Dream Cars I have an episode where I converted a BW bus into a fully electric car and then we went and shot the episode and stuff and we'd run around in the beach and stuff like that.

So if you have HBO Mac my episode will be released I think mid July but you can go and watch the first and the second episode right now and I think the second and third episodes will be released this week. Alright so today is the day that we do uh the red carpet and we see the first episode. but I mean also classic cars are a pain in the ass.

16 thoughts on “Making batteries the wrong way – 18650 pcb modules”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steven Smeagol says:

    Love the content just wish u ship to UK (without brutal import tax) thanks for doing all hard work and research

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joshua Leos says:

    How.many volts

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fredrick Jura says:

    Hey Jehu did you ever finish the designs of the top and end PCBs on this

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fredrick Jura says:

    Hi, Jehu Fred from Kenya here, been following you for years bro, keep up the good work. Want to try this out but can only see on type of PCB on PCBway, while on the video the assembly seems to have several designs. Mind sharing the complete BOM and designs for this kit?

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MadProfessor86 says:

    I'm thinking about buying your 24v 18650 diy pcb kits and was wondering if I can make two stacks like 5 boards each then connect via the plug in series to make 48v system. Is this possible? or would I let the magic smoke out and make the pixies angry?

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan Kienbaum says:

    Eventually going to power my house before the lights go out lol😮 not funny I know!.,.,

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan Kienbaum says:

    Ya like it! You got me hooked bro! Glad I found you😊! I'm looking to build batteries or my rv and converter. I know your not into rv yet nut but any help please the best way to go? Im new but learning alot. Im looking on your site and Battery Hookup.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vincent Telfer says:

    when a weld breaks loosing connection to a terminal in a ev battery pack wouldn't that change the voltage output or the charging so if the ground side on 1 battery in a pack broke connection the hot still connected could still discharge and drain the battery to much , how about a test? having compression on the terminals or a torque so not to push in the positive to far in with compression connecting the terminals along with the weld would be safer in case a weld was to come apart

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars nickwoo2 says:

    ok I was going to build a 24v system with your powerbox but now im going to wait for this!

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars anyiox says:

    how long is shipping usually to texas?

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Z? says:

    Leaf spring battery contacts to keep any compression off the battery's and only on the contacts.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rudy OG Kush Rodriguez says:

    What BMS is that boss man?

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Loki Boyboy says:

    Im all for DIY stuff and i like the videos. But when you add up all the costs of the batteries , cables, pcb bms etc. Its always going to be more expensive plus the fact that the 18650 would last less than LFP so it doesnt look cost effective.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sebas Tian says:

    The best location for contacting pressure would be concentric around the rod holes , not in a line between the 2 holes.
    The strips might even result in a warp like this () due to them protruding slightly and the forces generating a bending moment at the edges of those strips.
    This is all theoretical though but I'd take that into consideration for the next iteration if possible.
    Also make absolutely sure to use a torque wrench when everything hinges on the correct and consistent pressure generated from those nuts!
    Tightening a nut more in one place than the others might likewise result in some material bending/drifting and lead to faulty contacting after a longer time period.
    Also why not let there be a bit bigger holes rather than those needle sized ones in the intermediate spaces of the green board… so at least a tiny amount of cooling convection could happen if the cells would be mounted "standing".

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Miguel Silva says:

    Looks really good. Keep it up

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rackal Hahn says:

    the title bugs me

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