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All right. So we got a pallet of uh, these look like server batteries. Let's take a look at these and see what's up with them. They look interesting. Let's put them in the bench. All right. So these seem to be Panasonics uh, cells, right? Because it's a Panasonic label. Um, and they're It's a 6.4 amp hour. So 323 Watt hours. So it's not a huge battery pack, but um, it's a 50.4 volt, right? Um, so it's a 14 s. Now some of them have a rating. This one doesn't have a rating, but the other one had a rating of like 80 84. Like 4.2 um, kilowatt output, right? Um, which is about 81 amps. So it's got this connector over here I Wonder if it could do ads? This one doesn't seem to have the rating, but the other ones do. And it's got this connector in here, which I I Guess you know it's probably for a server of some kind. It's got a handle in here that allows you to probably to put it in and put it out. It's got this little thing that probably clicks boom and then it locks it there so they look to be like some kind of hot swappable heart. Uh, server batteries, right? Let's take it apart. I Already took some screws of this one so we can take it apart. Foreign, all right. And here's the interesting thing about this battery. It's got this Labyrinth um structure here, so it's got a fan, so obviously there needs to be able to have airflow through this. and then it's also, uh, seems to have a screen over here on this side and so you should be able to get airflow in here. but I guess this is to arrest some kind of flame if this battery were ever to blow up right or to do something right? So these I guess these get loaded quite a bit and so I guess that's why you would have that right. and then this is going to be in a server room. Um, and so because it's a server room, you don't want these all your computers to just to just blow up together with this one, right? So it's got to be pretty safe. This is UL listed. Um, it's got the listing in here and it's got things so this is pretty safe. It's pretty built, pretty tough. Now let me take a look at the battery pack and those other stuff. I've taken one of these apart already so that we don't have to do it again. Okay, so here's the one that I already took apart. It's got pretty beefy cables on the inside. I Mean these are like six gauge, uh, silicon wire. Plus they have this other external uh sheeting in here that is probably for temperature, right? Um, the connector also has these big wires in here. And then here's the assembly with the uh, well, this is a network connection, right? So this will Port so that it can connect to a network and then that's how you use them. Now, Unfortunately, this is probably proprietary and so I don't know how to use it. Here's the BMS system, right? And if you look in here, it's got. uh, these interconnects in here. It's got a 100 amp fuse, right? and then it's got eight of these mosfets. I Guess it's supposed to be able to carry about 100 amps. Continues right? Um, then this is another logic board and then it's got a big old, you know, bus bar there, right? The rest of the stuff is just a bunch of uh screws and fasteners so that you can put it together. Now let's look at the battery. The battery itself is here and here we go. Um, when you take the cover, so it's got two covers. Look, it's got the BMS board on here and then it's it's got covers and then a cover. When you take the covers, then you're exposed to the cell terminals, right? and these seem to be pretty beefy enough to carry out. I Mean there, it's beefy, but not I don't know. 100 amps? Uh, and then look at the structure here. so they're going through only two of those little things and it's all. Every cell's got four of those welds. so the configuration is four cells in parallel and then 14 in series. So this is a legit uh, 48 volt battery. so it could be used for any 48 volt um, application in the and the E-bike world, they call that 52 volts right? But for the rest of us, uh, energy storage and stuff like that, these are legit 48 volts. It will work with any 48 volt inverter for uh, you know, off-grid use and stuff like that. Um, what's something else interesting? Oh yeah. so this board right here. So here's the interesting thing. Um, because this is proprietary, we won't be able to use this board. That is for the BMS But if you take it apart I took the screws off. check it out. So you have access to every single one of the um, well, the So the cell terminals right and so you want it. We could design a board to put our own, uh, third party, you know, off-the-shelf BMS and you just, you just have to, you know, uh, measure this. We've done this in another battery. Um, and then you just replace that in here and even if it's just a what we did, it was just a breakout. We're a simple breakout board. so it was a board that we put in here and then, uh. all these would end up in a connector out here that you can put a cable. Then you can put a BMS and then connect. You Can you know, uh, attach many of these batteries, you know, uh, together in parallel and so that's what you would need. A simple breakout board? Um, so that's the cool thing about these. you can do that. or you could just literally just make uh, cables with um, you know, ring Terminals and then you can screw that in here and make that you would put the uh, the BMS somewhere in here. You could, you know, maybe? Yeah, you could attach it to this side over here and then you can use this battery, put it back in that box and then you could build a power wall. You can build some, um, you know, backup system for your computers or something like that, right? Um, Anyways, these are pretty cool cells. I don't know what cells they are because there is no way to look at them. They're pink. They're Panasonic pink if you know of any other Panasonic pinks that can do about 20 amps each. Do let us know, post it in the comments in there I Don't want to destroy this. This is a beautiful battery and there's nothing wrong with it. Um, so yeah, this is pretty cool. Pretty cool. We have a palette of these so they're We're gonna price them. You know? uh, in a way so that they could just move right? We we are in business selling batteries, we don't want to store them and So the faster we can get them at the door. So that's why I I sell them cheap, right? Because that way I can buy more batteries, We can get more in here and then you know. So So this is completely for like a DIY project because you won't be able to use them I don't know, maybe someone there's a reason why these ended up here I Don't know. sometimes it's because they're they're usable. Cycle life is done right. So for example, like if they're used in a hospital. um, you know I think hospitals change their equipment whether it needs to be or not every two years or something like that. So if these were used for backing up files in a server room in a hospital for example, then that would end up. That would be the reason, right? So there might be most of these or all of these I don't know. a number of these might be 100 in working order, right? And the only reason why they ended up in our hands uh, or on recyclers hands and then in my hands. It'd be because of that. but there also could be some that have some issues right? I did see on a couple of them that it says like you know rework or something. It said like look at that or something like it had some kind of an issue and they wrote some phrase in there that would let you know. but for the most part these don't have any writing in there and so we don't know why they ended up being uh sent to us. So these are I'm it's a small load Again, like with these small modes I don't want to spend too much time on them and so I don't check them I don't test them uh I usually don't design a thing for them which is kind of let you guys the DIY uh crowd within my audience to kind of take you know, take advantage of something like this and then make build your own stuff with them right? Um, when we get the bigger loads then we do more in depth and we you know we'll make a board, we'll make a connector. We'll figure it out. We'll figure way more out so that it's uh, a much better Complete product kind of plug and play close to Plug and Play There's always going to be some DIY with our batteries uh and with our products and stuff right? but uh. But we get closer to like plug and play with the larger loads right? This seems to be just a little load, you know, just a, you know, a palette and so there we go. Panasonic Server UL listed uh can do about a hundred uh 80, 81 I think I think 81 that's the rating on this on the other ones this one's particular don't have a rating so the ones that are Panasonic and I think because the other ones are LG cells but the one but you're gonna get these ones uh will separate them so that uh you'll get well I guess I won't say that, I No guarantees that you're getting Panasonic cells in them because without us opening every single one, right, Uh, we can't guarantee anything because there could be different cells in there. You know they could be not 18650s, but 2170s they're sometimes. These packs look exactly the same on the outside and then on the inside. Uh, they're completely different. That's what we're seeing with all the E-bike packs. Right on the outside, they look identical, but on the inside they have completely different cells. Some pouches have cylindricals, cylindrical, different sizes, and that sort of stuff. All right. All right. So if you're working on a 48 volt, uh, powerwall, backup battery system, or an E-bike or something that requires like four kilowatt that is very light and the guy is four kilowatt, this is probably the perfect pack for you. right? So there you go, They're gonna be at Jack35.com Thank you for watching this video. We'll see you guys on the next one. Bye.
are they 18650?
all fun just tired of the lack of access to your item in canada. sigh
Weird seeing these in the wild.
Pretty high power for the small box.
Makes me think they might be fun for a hybrid go-kart. No need to make it a plug-in even, just allow the cells to be charged when a button is pressed, discharged with another. Three of these would totally give a race kart a stab in the back.
Then there is the little matter of attaching and integrating a 12 kW motor ๐ Or a 5-6 minute stint pure electric ๐
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These are DC power system batteries. They ARE NOT SERVER BATTERIES or UPS batteries. Remote site comms or old-school data centres use 48VDC power supplies and run on DC rather than AC for better efficiency and seamless power protection. AC in through rectifier/charger into DC bus network, batteries sit on bus as well as load and they take any inrush or surge currents.
Those units would be in a large rack frame and all networked for monitoring. Others with have RS232 or 485 on the RJ45 socket.
Why don't race cars have hot swappable batteries? That would open up high pace grandprix and endurance racing. Faster pitstops than safe refueling if designed properly.
Formula E forces drivers to do 46 minutes on a tiny battery. Makes them hella slow. With a 60% larger battery and 25 minute stints, it wouls start to look like someone's in a hurry. Well over double the average power available. Regen power also gets improved but as speeds are higher, overall regen efficiency would of course drop.
I keep all my lithium battery projects in a shed away from my home.
So these packs will not output and charge as is without using the management ethernet connection?
Thanks for what you do even though I am restricted on purchase